Jon reads Daniel’s short story, Blackest Blue. Then, the two of them discuss how Blackest Blue attempts to portray the more mundane horrors of the ocean without resorting to mysticism or anthropomorphising it.

Daniel and Jon are joined by streamer and ocean lover, ghoulshark, to talk about A Lull in the Sea from the studio P.A. Works. They discuss how the sea is used as a metaphor throughout the show, representing both the complex emotions and relationships of the characters as well as its multitude of overarching themes.

Daniel and Jon discuss the ocean in fiction and how the integral place it has in human history has influenced the roles it can play in our stories.